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4/16: RE: - 4/15: WIZDOM;Lib We are not by definition communist. Terrorism and Iraq are two separate issues the United States is dealing with at the moment and President Bush has been saying they have been tied in together from the beginning which is not a proven fact. Just as the  he said there were weapons of mass destruction or Iraq posed a serious threat to the security of the United States, these are not facts just excuses used by President Bush in his justification for attacking Iraq. He also states he wanted to bring democracy to Iraq, what gives him the right to impose his ideas of a government Iraq should be ruled by, other then that we are the most powerful nation in the world and want Iraq a democracy. Might does not make right contrary to what Mr. Bush believes. We attacked Iraq for no other reason then we want to control their oil, the only reason that makes any kind of senses. None of President Bush’s reasons make sense if you look at the facts and have any kind of common sense. I never said no other Christian nation is being attacked, I said there are many not being attacked. I also didn’t say president Bush is going to get rich, he already is a millionaire many times over. I honestly believe the major reason is we are going to eventually run out of oil and the United States is the biggest users of oil in the world and we want to make sure we have an adequate supply in the years ahead and not be brought to our knees by other nations, which is in its own way commendable. I just don’t think it is right, it is not our country and not our oil. It is just like the way we dealt with the American Indian, we wanted their land and we took it and forced upon them our way of life and we are going to take Iraqs oil or have a say in where it goes and then force a democracy on them which most do not want. The British tried their rule and way of life on the colonies and our forefathers rebelled, and at that time the British were the most powerful nation in the world. The United States is going to be in Iraq for a lon
4/16: Why is the city of warren going to promote 2 sargants when they are already top heavy.This just doesnt make sense we pay taxes.Stop the pig fat from becoming blubber council do your job.The tax did not pass you can hire 4 police for the price of 2 sargants.Im voting [Name del] out hes a lame brain and a su*k A**.
4/16: RE: 4/14: This board is a riot !! Its amusing to read people trying to defend the mental midget that occupies the White House. Its even funny to watch the pathetic moving of the goal posts as the Administration trys to justify lie after lie after lie about why we went to Iraq,WMDs, Saddam and the puppet govt. we are installing that the Iraqis do not care for.But it stops being funny when you realize that W. has represented Millionaires & Billionaires at the expense of EVERYONE else economically .It has stopped being funny as you watch our guys die for his lie.A President morally bankrupt,who is bankrupting the country financially.Not funny!!
Paladin


And now you have just joined them!!!!!
4/16: WASHINGTON, April 13 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Sen. John Kerry has made public his 2003 income tax returns, as he has for past 20 years.

In 2003, Sen. John Kerry had $395,000 in taxable income and paid $90,575 in federal income taxes. Kerry had $43,735 in charitable contributions.

President Bush paid $227,490 in federal income taxes last year on taxable income of $727,083, according to a summary of the president's federal returns released Tuesday by the White House.

Bush and his wife, Laura, listed as income his presidential salary and the investment income from trusts that hold their assets.

The Bushes' tax bill was slightly lower than the previous year, when the First Couple paid $268,719 in federal income taxes.
4/16: April 16, 2004 -- There was new GOP pressure on Democrat John Kerry to release the tax returns of his mega-rich $525 million wife Teresa yesterday after it was learned that Kerry once said a politician who refuses to release tax returns can't be trusted.
When his wealthy GOP Senate challenger balked at releasing tax returns in 1990, Kerry demanded that he "come clean" and made it a central campaign issue, repeatedly asking: "What is he hiding?"

At that time Kerry claimed a wealthy candidate must release returns to prove he pays a fair share in "a tax system that isn't fair and lets the super-rich get off."

A GOP strategist zinged: "Now Mrs. Kerry is subsidizing his lifestyle so it's fair to expect to see her tax returns."

Kerry in 1995 married ketchup heiress Teresa Heinz Kerry, worth an estimated $525 million according to Forbes magazine.

The Kerrys file separate returns and Mrs. Kerry says she won't disclose hers - which would make her the only spouse in memory to balk.

In 1984, Democratic vice presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro, who also filed separately, ultimately released five years of her husband's returns.
4/16: yo lib, give it up - he's just like dubya - he has an answer for everything and his opinion is always right - and then he says stuff like throwing pearls at swine and wonders why people get offended and look at him funny - i think half of his whack commentary is not to be thought provoking - but to get a rise out of the posters - he enjoys the negative attention - sort of a personal power trip
4/16: The so-called Liberal Media are owned by large Conservative corporations that dictate control over biased news reporting in major newspapers and on major television networks. The media are conservative just like their owners and sponsors. You're getting the "News" the way that they want you to see it. This web site offers alternative news and political commentary on such subjects as gun control, bias in the media, George W. Bush, Condoleezza Rice, civil rights, the environment, media ownership, separation of church and state, religion, Afghanistan, Iraq, the war on terrorism, election coverage, Christian conservatives and many other political and non-political issues. You haven't formed an intelligent opinion if you've only looked at an issue from one angle.

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4/16: Paladin I agree with you 100%.  Wizdom and like minded war mongers need to be in Iraq where they can put their "money where their mouth is".  Bush will be shown to be the worst president in history - he already is in my opinion.  This country has suffered enough in every way at his command and he needs to GO.
4/16: Is this the Washington DC Pages?  I'm sick of reading about Bush and Kerry - let's get back to the purpose of this page - our own city and our views - not Bush and Kerry. 
4/16: "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" - Thomas Jefferson
4/15: Some questions : Saddam is "gone",so why can't the people of Iraq hold an election and place in office the people of THEIR choice? Why are more of our troops being killed now? Why is resistance now so much more aggressive? Is it because they don't want us shoving our way of life down their throats? Why can't they live differently than us?
How would you feel if they if they overthrew your government,ridding you of a murdering leader,THEN stayed to impose THEIR will on your country?
4/15: Bush doesn't care about any of us little guys. Look at his & Cheney's tax returns! They are in Iraq for the black gold, Texas style. Bush can't "think" of any mistakes he may have made? Give me a break! Iraq is the worst posible scenerio in the book. Now he wants to leave our soldiers over there for an extended 90 days. This isn't right, it isn't fair to the families, & it will cause many to not register in the military for their country. We are becoming the world's poorest country, thanks to Bush for sending our jobs out of the states. We can't feed or house our own, but there is always money for other countries. God have mercy on us all if Bush isn't voted out in November. Heaven help our children & their future, if we don't put a stop to this nonsense. Be safe out there to all.
4/15: Just because one opposes a war founded on LIES does NOT mean that they oppose our troops!
God bless our troops and keep them safe!
TBO
4/15: WIZDOM;Lib., You had said you were called a communist.I was consoleing you by confirming that we are by definition, communist!Thats not my take on it,that is fact.On the separate subject,Iraq,and Terrorism? I think if you were the Italian that got his head blown off execution style you might see a little connection?No other Christian Country's are being attacked?Tell me you are kidding!Ol bin Laden himself is trying to negotiate a Peace with Europe.I guess that implies they to were at war?Or did'nt you Spain,(Madrid),the Bosnian SERBIANS,Croatia,and on and on have been attacked and they are Christian!And it is not just Christians it's Jews, Hindu,Buhdist,and even moderate Muslims!But know matter how obviouse the situation is it is apparent your comfortable with that silly Bush/Oil,Bush/vendetta,Bush is going to get rich war!And I have got to tell you how shocked I was that after I have quoted The Masters,Jesus christ,Moses,The Prophet Muhammad,Mohutmah Gahndi,YOU come back with a quote from Herman Goering?I find it offensive to type his name!It is like I have been casting Pearls of WIZDOM before Swine!Allow me to close,Just WIZDOM
4/15: WASHINGTON, April 15 (Xinhuanet) -- US Secretary of State Colin Powell welcomed on Thursday proposals made by UN Undersecretary-General Lakhdar Brahimi about the establishment of an Iraqi caretaker government before the June 30 deadline for the US-led coalition to return sovereignty to Iraqis.

    "I think they're very sound recommendations," Powell said in aninterview with the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.

    "We'll have to study them. We'll have to discuss them within the United Nations, the Security Council, but they also have to bediscussed within Iraq by the members of the Governing Council and by leaders in other parts of Iraq," the secretary said.

    Brahimi, who is in Iraq in the capacity of special envoy for UNSecretary-General Kofi Annan, said in Baghdad earlier Thursday that an Iraqi caretaker government, comprising of a prime minister,a president and two vice presidents, could be set up ahead of the June 30 deadline for power handover.

    "We are confident that it will be possible to form such a government in a timely manner, that is during the month of May 2004," the envoy said. Enditem
4/15: WASHINGTON John F. Kerry's tour of duty in Vietnam, distinguished by Silver and Bronze stars and the close-range killing of an enemy fighter, is highlighted in his campaign ads and cheered on the trail. Even the campaign of President Bush, who did not see combat, hasn't tried to make an issue of his opponent's service record.

But as the presidential campaign heats up, some Vietnam veterans are using the Internet and talk radio to question the Democratic candidate's military record. They complain that Kerry's three Purple Hearts were for minor wounds and that he left Vietnam more than six months ahead of schedule under regulations permitting thrice-wounded soldiers to depart early. A review by the Globe of Kerry's war record in preparation for a forthcoming book, "John F. Kerry: The Complete Biography," found that the young Navy officer acted heroically under fire, in one case saving the life of an Army lieutenant. But the examination also found that Kerry's commanding officer at the time questioned Kerry's first Purple Heart, which he earned for a wound received just two weeks after arriving in Vietnam.

"He had a little scratch on his forearm, and he was holding a piece of shrapnel," recalled Kerry's commanding officer, Lieutenant Commander Grant Hibbard. "People in the office were saying, `I don't think we got any fire,' and there is a guy holding a little piece of shrapnel in his palm." Hibbard said he couldn't be certain whether Kerry actually came under fire on Dec. 2, 1968, the date in questionand that is why he said he asked Kerry questions about the matter.

But Kerry persisted and, to his own "chagrin," Hibbard said, he dropped the matter. "I do remember some questions, some correspondence about it," Hibbard said. "I finally said, `OK, if that's what happened . . . do whatever you want.' After that, I don't know what happened. Obviously, he got it, I don't know how."

Kerry declined to talk to the Globe about the issue during the preparation of the Kerry biography. But his press secretary, Michael Meehan, noted that the Navy concluded that Kerry deserved the Purple Heart.
4/15: In December '03, Kerry announced that he loaned his campaign $6.4 Million by mortgaging a share of a Boston home he jointly owns with his wife.

Teresa Heinz Kerry paid cash for the Beacon Hill mansion in January 1995.

But according To Kerry's own 1994 senate personal financial disclosure [signed May, 15, 1995], Kerry's own personal net worth was somewhere between a negative $130,000 to positive $34,995.

The current loan on the house carries an annual interest payment of $200,000, records show, more than Kerry's $158,000 Senate salary.

Kerry's campaign insists he intends to pay off the 30-year mortgage himself.

"Sen. Kerry is a man who has considerable assets," spokesman Michael Meehan explains.

But Kerry's own financial disclosures show no assets sufficient to pay the loan -- or even a way to keep up with the interest payments!
4/15: I know it is a good thing to have the FBI in town to sort out the criminals and clean Warren up, but there is something you should know. The Agents that we have here now are more crooked than any of their targets. [Name del] is a criminal as well as "I wear my pants up to my breasts" [Name del]. I think we DO need some kind of oversight to filter out the crimes taking place, but the personnel we have here now is only going to cause problems. They go after people due to personal vendettas and have not facilitated investigations on the people who are breaking the law. Right now, the FBI is just as crooked, or more so, then the people they are investigating. But this is just my opinion.
4/15: Much has been made of dubya's (lack of) service time in the Air National Guard in '72. But what's amazing is that nobody looks into his attendence and graduation from Yale in '68. Listen to the guy talk and tell me if you think "Ivy League".
4/15: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - While struggling unsuccessfully this week to think of a single mistake he has made since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, President Bush committed three factual errors about weapons finds in Libya, the White House said on Wednesday.
Bush, long known for his grammatical conundrums and confusing phraseology, told reporters twice during Tuesday's prime-time news conference that 50 tons of mustard gas were discovered at a turkey farm in Libya.

On the second occasion, he was responding to a reporter who asked him to identify the biggest mistake he had made since the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington that killed nearly 3,000 people and prompted the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

He could not. But as he searched for an answer, the Republican president reaffirmed his decision to invade Iraq and said weapons of mass destruction may still lie hidden there.

"They could still be there. They could be hidden, like the 50 tons of mustard gas in a turkey farm," said Bush, referring to Libya's voluntary disclosure of weapons in March.

The next day, the White House said the accurate figure for the Libyan mustard gas was 23.6 metric tons, or 26 short tons, not 50 tons.

Moreover, the substance was found at different locations across Libya, not at a turkey farm. And observers did not find mustard gas on the farm at all, but rather unfilled chemical munitions, the White House acknowledged.

"The president misspoke and we just want to correct the record," explained White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

Reports on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, which Bush cited as justification for the March 2003 invasion, have proved to be a political mine field for the president.

Bush agreed under pressure to set up a commission to investigate prewar weapons intelligence failures early this year, just as his 2004 reelection campaign got under way.

His decision came after a Bush claim that Iraq had sought uranium from Niger was shown to be based on forged documents. Other assertions of weapons stashes, including some made by Iraqis intent on persuading Washington to invade their homeland to oust Saddam Hussein, were also found to be wrong.
4/15: All of us are so quick to judge Pres. Bush, do you want to do his job?  He doesn't make all the decisions alone.  He is a Christian and I am not a pastor I am fellow Christian.  Not perfect, a (sinner).  Look at all the wars in the Bible, GOD is in Control of this world not President Bush!!!!!!!  And when HE has had enough.. that is when the real problems will begin, we have seen nothing yet.   We have taken God out of everything just as God Prophecised about!  We all have choices, God gave us that right....  He is coming soon so We all should be ready.  One God one Religion.  Serve Christ and follow his laws, you can't mistake that
4/15: RE: 4/14: WIZDOM;The County is calling back 7 janitors. I agree with you, we should make the inmates work off or pay off the debt they incur while being incarcerated, but not at the expense of the people working for the County or City. An accepted level of employment could be detirmined by the Administrators and Unions any other way would leave room for abuse.We have to keep an open mind in dealing with the cost of incarsaration and this might help alleviate some of the problems with budget shortfalls that both the county and city are encountering. .The Administrators and Unions have to work together to find solutions to these problems so they can provide adequate levels of safety and services to the citizens who reside in the County and City.It also could help reduce the amount of crime being committed in our area, and it could help reduce the workload for the people already employed by our County and City governments.But keep in mind we have to safeguard against abuse by either the government or the unions.I would recomend a citizens panel to monitor all decisions made and mediate conflicts that occur.I am a unionist, I believe in strong Unions. Unions help make our country great by raising the standard of living and bringing social issues to the forefront and if you look at past history as the union goes our standard of living goes.

The Liberal
4/15: CHIEF DEPUTY COOK THE WAY TO FIGHT CRIME IS NOT BY SETTING UP DATA BASES TO HOLD OTHER PART TIME DEPARTMENT'S REPORTS. THE WAY TO FIGHT CRIME IS TO PUT YOUR DEPUTIES BACK ON PATROL, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU BOY'S WANT TO DO NOW IS IT. ALL YOU REALLY WANT TO DO IS RUN THE JAIL AND THE COURTS. COME ON YOU CAN TELL THE TRUTH. THE ELECTIONS OVER AND YOU GUY'S WON AGAIN SO YOUR NICE HIGH PAYING, DO NOTHING JOB'S ARE SAFE FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEAR'S. HERE'S AN IDEA WHY DOESN'T THE SHERIFF LAY OFF ALL HIS ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER'S, ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT'S AND THE JAIL ADMINISTRATOR. THEN HE AND POSSIBLY ONE OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER COULD ACTUALLY LEAD AND RUN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WITHOUT ALL THE TOP HEAVY BRASS AROUND THAT WOULD FREE UP ALOT OF MONEY FROM SALARIES AND INSURANCE PAYMENT'S  THAT COULD BE USED TO REPLACE SOME OF THE 30 CORRECTION OFFICER'S AND DEPUTIES THAT WERE NEVER REPLACED WHEN THEY LEFT SERVICE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

PART TIME DEPUTIES TO PATROL NORTHERN TRUMBULL COUNTY. WHY NOT TAKE THE DEPUTIES THAT YOU HAVE STILL IN YOUR JAIL AND PUT THEM BACK ON PATROL? YOU GUY'S NEED TO LEARN TO MANAGE BETTER. YOUR SO WRAPPED UP IN WAGING YOUR PERSONAL WAR'S AGAINST YOUR STAFF YOU FORGET THAT YOUR SUPPOSED TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE PEOPLE OF TRUMBULL COUNTY.INSTEAD OF HAVING ONLY THREE SHIFT'S AND STEADY DAY'S OFF WHY NOT TRY SOME INNOVATIVE SCHEDULING ASSIGNMENTS WITH ROTATING DAY'S OFF SO THE BAD GUY'S DON'T KNOW YOUR DEPUTIES SCHEDULE'S. WHY NOT OFFER OVERTIME IN PATROL DIVISION TO GET EXTRA DEPUTIES ON THE STREET'S. GET THEM OUT THERE MAKING TRAFFIC STOP'S, PATROLLING  HIGH THEFT AREA'S, HAVE YOUR SWAT AND DRUG UNIT'S MAKE SOME ARREST'S OF DOPE PUSHER'S AND WANTED PEOPLE. I HAVE BEEN TOLD YOUR EMPLOYEE'S CAN TAKE COMPENSATORY TIME INSTEAD OF MONETARY PAY FOR OVERTIME. OFFER THESE ASSIGNMENT'S BASED ON RECIEVING COMPENSASTORY TIME FOR PAYMENT. I BET YOUR STAFF WOULD RESPOND WITH ENTHUSIASIM, AS THEY ARE A GOOD GROUP OF OFFICER'S WHO REALLY WANT TO HELP, BUT THEY HAVE LITTLE ABILITY TO SINCE OF THE MESS THE COUNTY IS IN.

COMMISSIONER'S AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR: WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT PROTECTING YOUR COUNTY OR BRINGING BACK THE MAINTANENCE PERSONNEL WHO DON'T DO ANYTHING ANYWAYS? OH I FORGOT, THAT'S HOW THIS WHOLE MESS STARTED WAS WITH MAINTENENCE WORKER'S AND COMMISIONER'S. IT IS NOT REAL HARD TO SEE THE LINK HERE. COMMISSIONER'S IN TROUBLE, POSSIBLY THE BIG "I" FOR SOME, SO WHEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ASK'S FOR MONEY YOU GUY'S TELL THEM NO. WONDER WHY? WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?

WHY IS JOE ANGELO NOT SUSPENDED FROM BEING A COUNTY COMMISSIONER? HE TOOK THE FIFTH WHEN ASKED TO TELL WHAT HE KNOW'S ABOUT THE PURCHASING PROBE. YET HE IS STILL ALLOWED TO RUN A COUNTY, DECIDE WHO GET'S WHAT MONEY AND HAVE CONTROL AND SAY IN HOW TAXPAYER MONEY IS TO BE SPENT. HOW THE HELL DOES THIS HAPPEN. WHO'S JOB IS IT TO DISCIPLINE THESE PEOPLE? HE SHOULD BE PUT ON UNPAID ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE FOR THE REST OF HIS TERM. A NEW TEMPORARY COMMISSIONER SHOULD BE APPOINTED IN THE MEAN TIME.

THE SAFETY AND THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTY IS AT AN EXTREME RISK RIGHT NOW. DRASTIC MEASURE'S NEED TO BE TAKEN ENSURE A SAFE, AND PRODUCTIVE FUTURE.   
4/15: Is our own Hugh Hewett a Rush Limbaugh wannabe.Sounds like it to me, he better put some weight on and check into a rehab.He sure talks like he is on drugs.
4/15: Texas Politics!

In Texas, we're proud to have the best politicians that money can buy. For
your delight and edification, here are some fine quips and quotes from
some of our most notable politicians. The following are actual quotes from
(actual) Texas politicians:

1. "It just makes good sense to put all your eggs in one basket."
Texas Rep. Joe Salem speaking on an amendment requiring all revenues to go
into the state treasury.

2. "Lemme give ya' a hypothetic." Texas Rep. Renal Rosson.

3. "Ain't nothin' in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead
armadillos." Texas Agriculture Commissioner Jim Hightower.

4. "And now, will y'all stand and be recognized?" Texas House Speaker Gib
Lewis to a group of handicapped people in wheelchairs.

5. "Dallas salutes a person who can buy a piece of art, but not a person
who can create one." C. Greene.

6. "No thanks, once was enough." Texas Governor Bill Clements, asked if he
had been born again.

7. "Oh good. Now he'll be bi-ignorant." Texas Agriculture Commissioner Jim
Hightower when told that Texas Governor Bill Clements had been studying
Spanish.

8. "I'd just make a little bit of money, I wouldn't make a whole lot."
Texas House Speaker Gib Lewis defending himself against the charge that he
would personally profit from a bill he had introduced.

9. "Well, there never was a Bible in the room." Texas Governor Bill
Clements, asked about repeatedly lying about the SMU football scandal.

10. "I am filled with humidity." Texas House Speaker Gib Lewis.

11. "If ignorance ever goes to $40 a barrel, I want drillin' rights on
that man's head." Texas Agriculture Commissioner Jim Hightower discussing
then-President George Bush's policies.

12. "If it's dangerous to talk to yourself, it's probably even dicier to
listen" Texas Agriculture Commissioner Jim Hightower.

13. "I move we recess to go outside and throw up." Texas House Speaker Gib
Lewis during a budget hearing.

14. "This is a real competitive business." A gas station owner, when asked
to explain the rapid rise in gasoline prices when Kuwait was invaded.

15. "...idiots, imbeciles, aliens, the insane and women..." Law standing
in Texas until 1918 regulating who could not vote.

16. "It's the sediment of the House that we adjourn." Texas House Speaker
Wayne Clayton.

17. "Let's do this in one foul sweep." Texas House Speaker Wayne Clayton.

18. "This is unparalyzed in the state's history." Texas House Speaker Gib
Lewis.

19. "I want to thank each and every one of you for having extinguished
yourselves this session." Texas House Speaker Gib Lewis.

20. "We'll run it up the flagpole and see who salutes that booger." Texas
House Speaker Gib Lewis.

21. "There's a lot of uncertainty that's not clear in my mind." Texas
House Speaker Gib Lewis.

And by God we desended a Texan to the Presidency
4/15: RE:4/14/: LAPD/K9POPO? Hanging out with Showers? What language is that? Could It be ebonics
4/15: This board is a riot !! Its amusing to read people trying to defend the mental midget that occupies the White House. Its even funny to watch the pathetic moving of the goal posts as the Administration trys to justify lie after lie after lie about why we went to Iraq,WMDs, Saddam and the puppet govt. we are installing that the Iraqis do not care for.But it stops being funny when you realize that W. has represented Millionaires & Billionaires at the expense of EVERYONE else economically .It has stopped being funny as you watch our guys die for his lie.A President morally bankrupt,who is bankrupting the country financially.Not funny!!
Paladin
4/15: To; Hooli - A possible wrong detection ...you could be the plug comedian... the whole thing may be jealousy...getting a little thin !!!!
4/15: To w(idiot)izdom,
if the northern half of the county would have voted for the alternative to altiere, they may have extra patrols. If I were a commissioner, this sheriffs administration would not recieve any money for callbacks until he laid of some oh his averstaffed administration. As for making offenders do the work of paid employees, maybe we could train the offenders to book people into the jail, run breathalizers, or chauffeur the sherriff around. Why do you think that anyone that is non-law enforcement is not important? They have families, bills and children to raise as well. Letting them do the work of laid off employees is just putting them out of work and potentially adding criminals. From what I have been hearing, the northern part of the county may solve the policing problems themselves by forming a joint police district. This would take the burden off of the county.
4/15: Another Snow Job by the Warren City Schools!!And We, the taxpayers, are paying for this!! Cant Imagine what this is doing to the Morale of the Employees. The Good News is we are getting new Schools, the bad news is, we wont have anybody to teach or maintain them!!
4/15: No kidding the FBI has not shared any info with local agencies? Well maybe that's because everything local is corrupt and is being investigated. Well I know they have shared information with State and Federal, guess you just don't have the connection's to know which ones.Check with the plug man he would probably know. Based on the ad that is running in USA today I thought someone must be on to something. They were looking for attorney's, politicans, and various dept. head's for the Warren area.
4/14: 4/13: RE: WIZDOM to The Liberal:- Whats your point,Whats your take on communism have anything to do with the subject I was talking about which is the War in Iraq and President Bush. The War in Iraq and terrorism are two different topics and I never mentioned terrorism in that posting. Are you a right wing ideologist you know my country right or wrong. Anyway I can see the Holy War declared on us, but the reason is not because we are Christians, there are many Christian Nations that are not being attacked. Could it be because we stuck our nose where it didn't belong. We do not belong in the middle-east, they are not our countries, they are not our resources, they are not our people. The reason we are there is oil, we wanted it and we are taking it.It is that simple. Smoke and Mirrors Wizdom.I will leave you a quote from Herman Goering."Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. Smoke and mirrors.

The Liberal
4/14/: There is only one God, but there are many religions, and there lies the problem.I think our founders understood this when they wrote our Constitution.One religion is no better or worse then another.Our founding fathers said separation of church and state they did not say separation of God and state. Every religion has a church and  churchs like religions are not God. God and religion are distinct enities and should be treated as such. God is mentioned in our Declaration of Independance and there are no laws establishing a religion in our Constitution.Our country was founded on the right to worship God any manner we choose.By not allowing the mentioning of God in government goes totally against what our founders meant by separation of church and state.Our Constitution is based on the moral concepts laid down by God.
4/14: It is becoming clear that Dubya needs Ohio to win the election. PLEASE!!! Don't let him take what little we have left! Too many families are scraping rock bottom, with no good future in sight. Bush has robbed us of our jobs, our homes, & most of our dignity. Send him back to the ranch for good! VOTE KERRY 4 PRESIDENT!
4/14/: Since Jan. 2001,Ohio has LOST 225,700 jobs.Average
WAGES in the state's GROWING industries are 28.7 percent LOWER. Remember the numbers and think about the families.The future of jobs is LOW WAGES.The future is in your hands. Vote .
TBO
4/14: WIZDOM;The County is calling back 7 janitors to lighten the burden on those currently getting the job done? Would,nt it be much WIZER to give the Northern Tier a few Deputy's,for the safety and services that they are currently denied,and as an alternative sentenceing, and those orderd to community service hand,brooms,buckets,and John brushes!If we would quit giveing 3 hots and a cot to bubble gum bandits,DUIs,and outher non violent chump crimes,and made them PAY THERE DEBT in LABOR,the savings would be staggering!Use them to clean the parks, mowe,weed whack,and paint!The money they spend on prisoners for dental,medical,food,clothing,and all they do all day is play games,watch TV setting on there asses!? It's an Obscene waste of money and an afront to justice!So with that I will be antisipating some WIZE feed back from Unionists,A.C.L.U.sts,and even some feminists.  Respectfully,WIZDOM
4/14/: LAPD/K9POPO? Hanging out with Showers? What language is that?
4/14: By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush acknowledged a good deal of introspection after all the questions lately about his government's actions before the Sept. 11 attacks and in Iraq, but not a whiff of contrition. Bush was asked in his prime-time news conference if he had made any mistakes.
"I'm sure something will pop into my head here," he said Tuesday. It didn't.
Bush is rarely one to second-guess himself and wasn't about to now, despite failures highlighted in the government's pre-Sept. 11, 2001, intelligence operations, the futile search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and all the recent violence there.
"I don't want to sound like I have made no mistakes," he said Tuesday night. "I'm confident I have."
But "maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one."
Dubya's attempt at modesty
4/14/: The city council plans to make a laws to keep guns out of the city parks. They can't even keep beer out of the parks.
4/14: April 14, 2004 -- The national 9/11 commission has been hijacked by political shills -- men and women eager to subordinate truth to partisan advantage; who hold a transitory victory on Election Day more dear than American victory in the war on terror.
Tawdry ambition has eclipsed sacred duty; all Americans are diminished, but none more than the families of the 9/11 victims -- who expect better from the commission, and certainly deserve it.

Unless it is the thousands of young Americans now under arms in Iraq and elsewhere; their bravery and devotion to duty is inspirational. How shameful that the commission attack dogs hold their sacrifices so cheaply.

And John F. Kerry, who presumes to the presidency, acquiesces. What a disgrace.

Yesterday, Democratic shills Richard Ben-Veniste and Bob Kerrey hectored Attorney General John Ashcroft. They implied he was a coward for travelling on government aircraft at a time of heightened pre-9/11 security - if not, in fact, a scoundrel in possession of advance notice of the attack.

Last week, it was National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice in the Democrats' dock; she was a fool, a filibusterer, a liar.

"Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that [President Bush was] warned against possible attacks in this country?" demanded Ben-Veniste.

Funny thing about that warning. Ben-Veniste was speaking of the now-famous Aug. 6, 2001, presidential daily briefing paper - suggesting that it proved the White House had failed to comprehend al Qaeda's threat to America.

Yesterday, it came out that someone had indeed gotten it right.

George W. Bush, who had directed that the briefing paper be prepared.

In a 13-page report titled "Threats and Responses in 2001," the commission staff paints a picture of alarm bells going off throughout Washington in the months before 9/11 about an imminent "spectacular" terror attack by Osama bin Laden.

But the intelligence reports all talked about attacks occurring against targets overseas.

And the fevered reports, in the summer of 2001, of possible threats "seemed to be focused on Saudi Arabia, Israel, Bahrain, Kuwait, Yemen and possibly Rome, but the danger could be anywhere . . . "

So the CIA prepared the Aug. 6 memo, "summarizing its understanding of the danger."

In sum: The briefing paper was written specifically for the president in direct response to an order from the president!

Obviously, the CIA's "understanding of the danger" was deficient.

But it clearly was not "a fact" that Bush was "warned against possible attacks in this country."

It is clear, now, that the entire briefing-memo "scandal" was sewn from whole cloth. But will there be an apology from Ben-Veniste, Kerrey & Co.?

Not a chance.

Why not.

Because, to the Democrats, the enemy is not just al Qaeda.

It is also the George W. Bush White House.

So they cross the bounds of acceptable political discourse, twisting the truth and bending the facts to produce a product that will advance their political ambitions.

To hell with the 9/11 families.

And to hell with eight young Americans reported killed in action in Iraq just yesterday; to the 65 who died over the past week - and to the hundreds who have laid down their lives for peace and freedom since 9/11.

All to defeat Bush.

John Kerry could shut it down in a heartbeat, simply by saying: "Stop it!"

Kerry needs to do just that. He must state the obvious: that 9/11 was the work of Islamist fanatics, and that the danger will not have passed until those who make war on America are either killed or in captivity.

It is simply disgraceful that he hasn't already done so.
4/14/: CAMPAIGN RAGE: FLORIDA DEMOCRATS PLACE NEWSPAPER AD CALLING FOR RUMSFELD HIT; FUNDRAISING FOR KERRY

Campaign 2004 turns extreme in Florida with the placement of a newspaper ad calling for physical retribution against Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld!

"We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say 'This is one of our bad days,' and pull the trigger," the ad reads.

The call-to-arms fundraising ad, placed by the St. Petersburg Democratic Club in the current issue of the GABBER, a local St. Petersburg paper, asks readers to make an urgent donation to the John Kerry campaign.

Club Vice President Edna McCall told the DRUDGE REPORT Tuesday morning: "We want to get our country back. In Iraq, we're in deep trouble. If we don't try to get this situation cleared up, we are finished."

When asked if the ad was a challenge to inflict violence on Rumsfeld, McCall explained: "'Pull the trigger' means let Rumsfeld know where we stand, not to shoot him!"

"We are getting raped, and they are planning to steal the election again."

McCall said her club is in direct contact with John Kerry campaign.

"We're all working together."

The publisher of the GABBER says running the ad with the passage "pull the trigger" was a mistake that "slipped through" during the editing of this week's edition.
4/14: The editor's notes crack me up "Editor's Note: this is where the post stopped that I received - sorry" - just when it was getting really good. No hidden agendas on warrenpages - never.
4/14/: The Tribune is a joke. Charles Jarvis has no problem telling everyone how great they are, for The Trumbull County Make A Difference Day. If Jarvis wasn't so stuck on himself he would realize he could make a huge difference in Trumbull county if he quit using the Chronicle to spew hate, tell half truths, and divide this community. Maybe subscriptions would go up if Jarvis weren't an idiot the other 364 days out of the year.
4/14: I find your 4/13 post distasteful and I have spit it out.
4/14/: I read the article in the paper abouut the entertainment district that some are proposing for downtown Warren. i think it is good that something is happening however, I think careful planning shouild be considered. the Queen Bar is not something that we would want to build our downtown district around. I have heard that [name del] frequents that establishment. I have nothing against gay people but I don't think our downtown should be centered around that type of establishment.
4/13: A big thank you to sue shafer at the tribune for spearheading the make a difference day campaign. she does everything top notch. i had the opportunity to be a part of this. also thanks to us weekly, and the trumbull 100 club for their more than generous donations which totaled 20,000. we have GREAT people in this county. please readers to this forum, remember do not let a few bad apples in county government, sour you to the many fine volunteers,and others who strive to  Make a difference in our lives each and every day. there is nothing more rewarding than to give freely of ones self, and expect nothing in return but knowing that you did good for another person. volunteerism, what this country was built on, what can hold us a float during these hard times.
4/13: First Bush wanted Saddam, to satisfy his Daddy. He got him, & moved on to collect Bin Laden,without much luck, & now he wants another loose cannon. He is becoming the laughing stock of the news. Are we going to allow him to go after every single maniac in Iraq that hates us, while they terrorize & torture our soldiers & contractors? Your child could be next! Who will Bush want next? Time has come to stop all the war games, get our people out of that mess, & vote Bush OUT!! He doesn't give a rat's a*s about our jobs! He wants war, so he can look like a tough cowboy. I say we put him out to pasture with his herd! We are letting our people get killed to satisify the Bush family needs & wants--OIL!!!  KERRY FOR PRESIDENT!
4/13: The FBI has never worked with or shared information with any other Agency Local, State or Federal, ask anyone in Law Enforcement. So why the surprise now ?
4/13: Doug Franklins decision to drive through the city wards with the council representative is a great out reach. It is tremendous to see the new feel of cooperation between our leaders. Any one that knows Doug Franklin is impressed by the quiet dignity and strength of this man.
4/13: You people who profess God is on George Bush's side because he is a Christian crack me up. Saddam says God or Allah is on his side, Bin Laden says God or Allah is on his side. Who's right and who's wrong, I guess its a question of semantics.Even the rest of the Christian Nations of the world were against President Bush getting involved in Iraq. A true Christian leader would never attack another nation without provocation.North Korea, China, and even the old USSR were more of a threat to the United States then Iraq. why didn't we attack them. Is it because they have nukes and could have put a major hurting on our country.Iraq was no threat to us, Saddam Hussein was contained, he is a madman but he is not stupid. Iraq is not another Viet Nam its more like the USSR, Afganistan conflict and you know how that turned out. This war is not about religion, its not about Democracy, its not about WMD's. Iraq has about one third of the world's oil supply, Saudi Arabia has another one third and the rest of the world the other third, we will eventually run out, probably in the next 75 years or so at our current rate of consumption and the United States is the largest energy user in the world. President Bush wants a foothold in the middle east so the United States has a say in who gets the oil and gets the profits.The United States has had a plan for the middle east since 1999,its called Project for the New American Century outlining this plan about the middle east.If we are going to live in the world community in peace, the we have to allow other countries to govern themselve with whatever leader they have use their resourses however they want. We have no right to interfere just because we do not see eye to eye with their leader because he won't do what we want,  especially if they are no threat to our nation.Iraq had a leader, and if they didn't like him then they should have gotten rid of him. It is not our responcibility or our right.Iraq is in turmoil right now and who knows how long it take to be stabile, at least under
Editor's Note: this is where the post stopped that I received - sorry
4/13: "The situation in Iraq has improved," Mr. Bush insisted.

Since last Friday, at least 26 American soldiers have been killed, raising the U.S. military's death toll to at least 70 since April 1. At least 700 Iraqis have died in the fighting, by far the bloodiest toll for both sides since Mr. Bush declared victory in Iraq last May. As well, the Iraqi crisis is now marked by a rash of kidnappings of foreign workers and journalists.

"The situation in Iraq has improved," Mr. Bush insisted.

I guess you can fool some of the people all of the time. But not enough to win in November.
4/13: Thomas Jefferson
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A dozen quotes by Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United
States.  Born April 13, 1743

I do not take a single newspaper, nor read one a month, and I
feel myself infinitely the happier for it.

I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against
every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.

I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and
public debt as the greatest of dangers.  We must make our choice
between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude.  If we
can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people
under the pretense of caring for them, they will be happy.

In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence
in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the
Constitution.

It is neither wealth nor splendor, but tranquility and
occupation, which gives happiness.

Never spend your money before you have it.

Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are
created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness.

A little rebellion now and then is a medicine necessary for the
sound health of government.

And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers
load us with perpetual debt.  We must make our election between
economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude.

Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.

We have a crisis of leadership in this country.  Where are the
Washingtons, the Jeffersons, and the Jacksons?  I'll tell you
where they are - they are playing professional football and
basketball.
~Author Unknown~

I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of
human knowledge, that has ever been gathered at the White House-
-with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined
alone.
~John F. Kennedy~
4/13: You know more about a Christian by his actions than his words................................

What or when some one tells you they are something,,,, why did we not know it ,,,, could it be that you paint a picture of yourself, how you want others to see you , not as you really are..

What makes Pres Bush a great Christian? Is it that we are told he is or because his actions tell us so. Beware of a wolf in sheeps clothing.

A Christian is a Christian , none greater or less than others, we are all I repeat all sinners in Gods' eyes.
-Rick
4/13: To Danny  ---your plug jokes are getting old
Watch your stones... your house has very thin glass!
4/13: To the post who said George Bush was of God. Are you nuts? I guess it is true that the Republican party is made up of plutocrats and preachers. This Orwellian nightmare that Bush had brought us use "1984" as their operations manuel.
4/13: To the person saying that they never see any Commisioners cars in the lot on Harmon, you need to look on Wednesday, that is the day Tsigaris works and he parks in the drive of the first house past the YMCA so he dont have to walk very far.
4/13: ORCHID to the Tribune Chronicle for national recognition by USA Weekend magazine for Make A Difference Day 2003, a collaboration of more than 80 volunteer projects that was named one of the 10 best in the nation!
4/13: WIZDOM to The Liberal:I implore you,to stop listening to your WIZE guy he is makeing both of you sound foolish!And spare me all of those scary bad ol Bush stories!It is obvious it time for you to move off of moveon.com!So with all of that behind us allow me to ease the trauma you sufferd by haveing been called a communist with a little WIZDOM!First of all the word communism means one thing and one thing only,A SOCIAL SYSTEM BASED ON COMMON OWNERSHIP OF PROPERTY!We do not have private property.If we did then the Government could'nt make you purchase a thirty dollar permit(permission)to hang an eighty dollar door!They could'nt make me put in a eight thousand dollar upgrade on my properly functioning septic system before I am allowed to sell my private property!And saveing the best argument for last.You will LEASE (in the form of a property tax)your private property untill the day you die!And for the sake of anyone who does'nt understand what that means it means Our form of DEMOCRACY has embrased COMMUNISM in practice!!Oooo            Now TBO believes I need to get outside of the box,and you believe I get all my information from the main stream media?What have you not understood thatI told you about Wahhabi ideology?Why ca'nt you see that a Jihad Holy War was declared on us!For the last time.They are not a particular nationality,and not all just Arabs.They have been kicking our asses for years and have killed thousands of our citizens!How could anybody after 9/11 be so filled with hate as to believe Bush declared war for his personal capital gain?Aword to the WIZE Lib.,seek counciling!And before I close I would like to thank the post on the thirty dollar permit thing.                                   Respectfully,WIZDOM
4/13: If the new leaders really want to make a difference in this city they should start removing the unqualified deadwood the old mayor appointed to the high paying positions.  Start with [names del].  That would be the only way they prove to this taxpayer that they are making changes
4/12: Congratulations to Warrens leaders for working on a plan to revitalize the city.  There is a new clean breeze in the town. Despite the corruption investigations, the new folks at city hall are working to making Warren a place to be proud to call home.
Warren Proud
4/12: Tom Gaffney, City income tax director had an article in the paper the other day about collecting incomes taxes, I would like to know if he LIVES in Warren, did he ever move into Warren, and not some phoney address. He doesnt have a water bill in his name. And if, he doesnt live in Warren, WHY NOT? Anyone care to reply?
4/12: Dumb and Dumber Joey (ex commish) Angelo never ceases to amaze! First, lying that he paid his wife 10,000.00 to run campaign, (gee Joe, she must really love ya). But, I would really like to know how he  spent over 37,000.00 on his losing campaign. What did he spend it on?? Thank God he on his way OUT!
4/12: To the poster of 4/10
The USA is not hated because of President Bush..we are hated because of our religion...Christanity (these days the lack of) That is what is wrong with the people....they are turning away grom GOD, without him, everything will go to hell!!  no pun intended.  God made ALL these prophicies!!  they are all coming to pass.
4/12: Southington:  Great Easter Egg Hunt on Saturday.  Alot of supporters showed up....maybe we can now start to heal..
4/12: To the people commenting about President Bush...he has and continues to do a great job in office.  He is a Christian and his morals are not of the world they are of God!!  Hard example to follow!!  God fortold  us in the latter days, that most worldy people will hate Christians!! 
4/12: WELL IT,S TIME PEOPLE TO TELL DANNY BOY ENOUHG IS ENOUGH YOU WANT TO SAVE POEPLE IN TRUMBULL COUNTY MONEY. BUT HIRE MORE POPLE WITH WHAT  MONEY ????? COME NOV. LETS TELL DANNY BOY LOOK FOR A REAL JOB.
4/12: Soldier from Dunn killed in Iraq

The Associated Press

The family of an Army sergeant who died in Iraq this week was mourning over Easter weekend at the house of the grandparents who raised him.
Sgt. 1st Class Marvin L. Miller, 38, of Dunn died Wednesday in Balad when he was shot while on traffic control duty. The Pentagon said the shooting was still being investigated.
Some members of Miller's Harnett County family were struggling to justify to themselves his deployment to Iraq.
"Is it a good cause?" asked his sister, Miriam Smith. "No, not really. They're over there trying to help the people, and they're steady killing them."
Miller's cousin, Felicia Smith of Raleigh, and aunt, Annie Miller, concurred.
"It stinks," Annie Miller said. "The president got us into something he doesn't know how to get out of. It seems like the more killing that goes on over there, the more troops he's sending."
The family remembered an outgoing, friendly man devoted to the Army and to his family.
"He loved to party, and he loved his girls," Smith said.
Miller had two daughters and two sons with Linnett Miller, his wife of 12 years.
The 18-year military veteran was assigned to the Army's 1st Squadron, 4th U.S. Cavalry, 1st Infantry Division, Schweinfurt, Germany.
The family had been living in Germany for about two years.
Miller's eldest child, Marvin Lee Miller Jr., said he no longer wants to follow his father's footsteps and go into the Army after high school.
"I was going into the military, but not no more," he said on the porch of his father's childhood home. "Not after this."
Funeral arrangements were not available Saturday.
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Information from: The News & Observer,

Many more families will begin to feel this way when their kids start coming home in bodybags.